Viewing 18 posts - 21 through 38 (of 38 total)
  • #88250
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    @littlestef wrote:

    i still want to know. what is a reasonable amount of time? is it 20 metres in 20 mins. 20 metres in 5 mins etc. because nobody seems to be able to tell me.

    @taungfox wrote:

    “safely, reliably, repeatedly and in a reasonable time period”.
    We were celebrating the fact that the MDC and other organisations had got this very important phrase enshrined in law to be part of the testing procedures..

    I accept the time period one can be a bit “open to debate”, but among a lot of bad feeling and publicity
    recently the other three are really good news for people like us with medical conditions that are
    rare and difficult to understand and often variable and unquantifiable.

    “safely, reliably, repeatedly”, is the understanding interpretation that we have been been needing.

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

    taungfox
    Participant
    Posts: 4,630
    Joined: 27/09/2010
    #88251
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    well peeps the dreaded PIP is here. god knows what were going to do now :bang:
    http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-06-10/the-personal-independence-payment-pip-disability-living-allowance-dla/#charities-and-campaigners-attack-disability-plans_215068

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88252
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    @littlestef wrote:

    well peeps the dreaded PIP is here. god knows what were going to do now :bang:
    http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-06-10/the-personal-independence-payment-pip-disability-living-allowance-dla/#charities-and-campaigners-attack-disability-plans_215068

    The poor lady on the BBC news is toast.

    She made the mistake of letting them film her tottering more than 20 metres down her back gardens.

    "Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".

    taungfox
    Participant
    Posts: 4,630
    Joined: 27/09/2010
    #88253
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    I’m pretty sure I heard her say this morning that someone with a progressive illness wont have to attend an assessment but can be dealt with on a paper review – or words very similar to that – the words may not be exactly hers but at least that’s how it registered in my mind ! Still she hasn’t realised its the additional stress having to complete these forms that is so unnecessary for people already suffering greatly.

    Lesley
    Participant
    Posts: 38
    Joined: 28/11/2010
    #88255
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    hi Lesley. look lets all stop pretending that the government care about the disabled. they cant even make shops and transport accessible. so I seriously doubt if they give a toss about how these changes will effect us. :nono:

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88256
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    @lesley wrote:

    I’m pretty sure I heard her say this morning that someone with a progressive illness wont have to attend an assessment but can be dealt with on a paper review – or words very similar to that – the words may not be exactly hers but at least that’s how it registered in my mind ! Still she hasn’t realised its the additional stress having to complete these forms that is so unnecessary for people already suffering greatly.

    I can understand the rules having to be adhered to more vehemently, I can appreciate that there are those with conditions that need reassessing and I appreciate that regardless of the rules there are those who will flout them, abuse them and claim fraudulently, but at the end of the day there is also a minority of genuine, severely disabled, possibly inarticulate claimants who will fall through the cracks or crack up with the stress.

    There needs to be something where if someone has an untreatable, irreversible, degenortive condition that once it has reache a certain stage on the PIP points system they are reassessed but not every 2-3 years but every ten [in the hope medical science and technology progress rendered a positive change to the person].

    I'm always the animal, my body's the cage

    I blog about nothingness www.amgroves.com

    AM
    Participant
    Posts: 4,751
    Joined: 05/03/2015
    #88254
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    morning peeps. reassessed every 2 – 3 years. ive been told that the reassessment is going to be every year.
    can anybody tell me the answer to this. if for example, im called in for my pip assessment and I pass and am placed into the no change rate.
    then im called back in for my routine reassessment. what happens if I get an assessor and hes in a crappy mood, so therefore decides I don’t meet the criteria. does this mean i no longer qualify for the benefit. yet, 12mth earlier I did.
    also we all know that capita, who are owned by atos, are doing the assessments. now atos say I qualify for ESA and have put me in the support group. but if capita say I don’t qualify for pip. would this be hypocracy on there part. :scratch:

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88257
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    Yeap, yeap and yeap.

    The media looking for peeps to discuss the anti-Atos view find endless supply of those assessed as eligible to be reassessed 3-6-12 months later as ineligible to then get but back to eligible ……. no reason why PIP won’t be the same.

    The system is broke and the fix is broke.

    I'm always the animal, my body's the cage

    I blog about nothingness www.amgroves.com

    AM
    Participant
    Posts: 4,751
    Joined: 05/03/2015
    #88258
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    I find it incredible how she accuses Krishnan of being ‘alarmist’!

    He did a good job here, but at times I wish he would have let her finish her sentence…not because I value her opinion but because it’d have been nice for her to show her true colours further.

    She really stuffed up by losing her temper…I get Krishnan was vocal and get butting in but she seriously didn’t come across with any compassion..oh and she whacked in a religious connotation. Typical Tory me thinks!

    Muscular Dystrophy UK staff member

    Alexa Follen
    Moderator
    Posts: 32
    Joined: 12/05/2015
    #88259
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    morning peeps. somebody from we are Spartacus sent me this link concerning a request for a change to the consultancy on PIP. have a read. I think its rather interesting and could spell good news for us.
    http://wearespartacus.org.uk/

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88260
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    We are at the mercy of a flawed system being fixed by a flawed fixer … no-one will be left unscathed.

    I'm always the animal, my body's the cage

    I blog about nothingness www.amgroves.com

    AM
    Participant
    Posts: 4,751
    Joined: 05/03/2015
    #88261
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    ive just had this sent to me. I think its finally going to happen.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dwp-to-launch-personal-independence-payment-mobility-consultation

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88262
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    Good start :)

    I'm always the animal, my body's the cage

    I blog about nothingness www.amgroves.com

    AM
    Participant
    Posts: 4,751
    Joined: 05/03/2015
    #88263
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    somebody from we are Spartacus, has sent me this link on the pip mobility consultation. im afraid it doesn’t look like good news for some of us. :bang:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208334/pip-mobility-consultation.pdf

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88264
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    peeps. ive just been told that this is a 6wk consultation. we are Spartacus are asking for peoples opinions on it.

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88265
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    Right, I’ll make this my last post I promise because either I don’t understand something because of fatigue or just normal stupidity.

    Just quickly looking at this consultation, it states on 2.1 moving around activity, “The criteria for the
    Moving around activity set out in the current Regulations are as follows… d. Can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres. e. Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided.”

    If you can move more than one metre but, not more than twenty unaided, doesn’t that negate all the questions before it ? If you can walk unaided in the last example… I’m lost, maybe I’m being thick.

    Nice job by the government on grammar & punctuation etc. Who proofed this before it went to print ? There’s capital letters popping up everywhere mid sentence :D .

    Defo time for bed, NN.

    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self

    I, Disabled Bloke
    Participant
    Posts: 540
    Joined: 29/10/2010
    #88266
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    yes. I found it confusing too. ive messaged we are Spartacus on facebook about this. perhaps you could do the same.

    stefan

    littlestef
    Participant
    Posts: 526
    Joined: 04/10/2011
    #88267
    Re: Minister is proud of herself…

    @woogy wrote:


    Nice job by the government on grammar & punctuation etc. Who proofed this before it went to print ? There’s capital letters popping up everywhere mid sentence …

    I suspect that the lack of attention to how the document’s presented reflects the lack of attention that the government will give to any responses (any responses that disagree with what they’ve already decided, that it).

    petered
    Participant
    Posts: 564
    Joined: 24/01/2011
Viewing 18 posts - 21 through 38 (of 38 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

Keep in touch