April 28, 2012 at 7:21 pm #74373Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
Does anyone know how muscular dystrophy affects a bmi reading? I had a health check recently and it came back that I was obese! Although I am very skinny to look at! The doctor didn’t seem worried and I am just wondering if the weird reading is to do with muscle that is broken down being read as fat on the machine or something?LoneWandererParticipantPosts: 25Joined: 14/06/2011April 29, 2012 at 8:27 am #85351Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
Your post sparked a memory of a previous topic where BMI was discussed and someone similarly reported that they had come out as obese. Here is the thread: http://community.muscular-dystrophy.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=800&p=4501&hilit=BMI#p4501
I don’t think BMI is a particularly helpful measurement for some people with MD.
A learning experience is one of those things that say, “You know that thing you just did? Don’t do that.” - Douglas Adamssar78ModeratorPosts: 2,246Joined: 05/03/2015April 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm #85352Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
That’s funny. I would think I would come out as totally underweight. I have always argued that given how little muscle I have and a higher percentage of fat in my body that BMI is completely meaningless for me. But it does make going to weightwatchers, for instance, really difficult (besides that fact I can’t get on the scales of course!).AmeenaParticipantPosts: 33Joined: 29/01/2011April 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm #85353Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
Very interesting points.
Yes, like most here I am underweight yet a few muscles I use a lot are
larger than I would expect. Some forms of MD even have as a symptom
muscles being overdeveloped.
This is confusing, can you apply BMI to different parts of body
Early in the testing ATOS were declaring MD people fit for work because the
HCP detected “no loss of muscle tone”.
"Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".taungfoxParticipantPosts: 4,630Joined: 27/09/2010May 7, 2012 at 2:06 pm #85354Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
BMI is a means of assessing whether someone’s weight falls within normal limits for their height
BMI = weight in kg / (height in m) squared
If someone has an abnormally high or low level of muscle for their height then this will affect the result so very muscled athletes such as rugby players will be abnormally heavy for their height and a lot of people with md have an abnormally low level of muscle and so will be abnormally light for their height. I suspect that if people are unexpectedly coming out as obese there is likely to be a problem with the height bit of the equation – scoliosis, lumbar lordosis and difficulty holding the head upright will all result in a lower height measurement than you’d get if you didn’t have those issues. You might be better using a surrogate measurement for height such as ulnar length (ie measuring from you wrist to elbow and doing a standard conversion to estimate height from that)
ElizabethAilsaParticipantPosts: 17Joined: 09/12/2011May 10, 2012 at 3:25 pm #85355Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
I am 5′ 10″ and weigh about 14st 6lb, i guess i could be called fat. I have always struggled to control my appetite, i would most likely describe myself as a bit of a glutton.
I have just entered my weight and height into an online calculator and am a little concerned now! According to the calculator, i have a BMI of 28.7, ideally it should be between 18.5 and 24.9. Apparently i will be considered obese if i reach a BMI of 30!
Although i swim three times a week, i eat too much and drink quite alot of beer. That is on top of the fact i do very little physical activity for the vast majority of the time. Perhaps i had better have a serious re-think about my lifestyle.
My life often seems pointless and i have a low self-esteem these days. That being said, i don’t want to put my daughters through seeing me dying before my time. They are the only reason i stick around tbh.
Thanks for this BMI thread LW, it has given me food for thought. (pun intended )May 10, 2012 at 3:36 pm #85356Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
IAlthough i swim three times a week, i eat too much and drink quite alot of beer. That is on top of the fact i do very little physical activity for the vast majority of the time. Perhaps i had better have a serious re-think about my lifestyle.My life often seems pointless and i have a low self-esteem these days. That being said, i don’t want to put my daughters through seeing me dying before my time. They are the only reason i stick around tbh.Thanks for this BMI thread LW, it has given me food for thought. (pun intended )
Ranald is down in the dumps.
Wish I could think of a big solution or a total answer to his and everyone’s problems.
When things look bad, they will get better if we just hang in there and tough it out. Adversity
can even help us deal with future problems.
We will get there !
"Even if you are not paranoid, it does not mean they are not out to get you!".taungfoxParticipantPosts: 4,630Joined: 27/09/2010May 10, 2012 at 5:13 pm #85357Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
Hiya Mr Fox, i wasn’t trying to garner sympathy, far from it. Compared to the health problems of some of you guys, i have nothing to be “down in the dumps” about!
I suppose i just wanted to show how different to some of you guys i am. I only have Becker MD and am still mobile, i eat to much, when many of you can hardly take enough calories on board etc. I can choose to diet any time i like, a wheelchair user with respiritory problems doesn’t have the choice to get out of their chair, or breathe easier.
If i ever sit down and think about my weight, i usually say “to hell with it, eating and drinking are my only pleasures, why make yourself miserable?) That is not a particularlly sensible approach, i agree.
Once again we are shown the large spectrum that is MD. Some like my wee brother have only a slightly low Injection Fraction, (a measurement of the percentage of blood leaving your heart each time it contracts. but is otherwise unaffected by Becker MD.We both have enlarged calf muscles as an indicator of BMD, but i am the only one to show any sign of muscle weakness and wastage. These relatively minor complaints are sharply contrasted by Duchenne MD sufferers, who have been confined to a wheelchair, with multiple health problems since early childhood. Additionally born with a shortened life-span.
We all come under the same umbrella, but the scale of disability we each face, is varied in the extreme.May 11, 2012 at 11:18 am #85358Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
Okay, I am going slight off topic but on topic here.
I detest this Nanny States obsession with numbers, your height should be in this range, your feet must be these identical sizes, this bmi rate, that cholesterol number, this blood pressure, this heart rate, score this many points to get this amount of cash, score this number as a pass rate to get this qualification.
I am not a number [oww that sounds familiar] I have anorexic arms and legs with an obese backside and morbidly obese midriff, yet an average waist line, my heart rate and blood pressure is normal for me at below average, I do not need to drink x liters of water a day or spend Y minutes throwing myself about like a demented dodo to be healthy. I apply this thing called sensible moderation.
Of course, we all know why the Nanny keeps throwing these statistics and numbers at us, it is because we must be distracted fom anything that is of importance, like fiddling MP’s, money wasting Agencies, thieving Bankers, economic crissiseses [never sure how to spell that, get confused saying that, lol] – after all we may revolt and turf them all out the big house.
Okay, I lied blood pressure now slight above my usual blow average, lol, I shall de stress by doing the dishes.
As you were
I'm always the animal, my body's the cage
I blog about nothingness www.amgroves.comAMParticipantPosts: 4,751Joined: 05/03/2015May 11, 2012 at 8:13 pm #85359Re: Muscular Dystrophy and BMI
The problem with me AMG, is that i am still playing at being normal. I can fool myself that i am fully fit if i choose to, just as long as i stay away from stairs and steep inclines, and don’t bend over too far!
The point i am trying to make is that i am not disabled enough to quit trying to improve myself, i still have hopes of attracting a new partner, losing a little weight would certainly help. Weakening muscles could do without the added burden of my expanding waist-line.
I can hardly complain about my small problems here, i am sure many other Talk MD members would kill for chance to walk, no matter how poorly. I just find this “halfway house” state of being extremely frustrating, i could almost wish my body would just make up it’s mind what it wants to do! Not belonging to any camp is hard for me to come to terms with things.
I would tend to agree with you AMG, i never weigh myself, only when i visit the hospital or GP. I only looked up this BMI calculator for the first time this week. Living life by numbers is no way to be.
My neighbour is in a similar boat to me. We are the same age, both with a mild disability, both unemployed, and both divorced. We both have two kids too!
We have decided to try and help eachother to shift a little weight, as well as get back to work, also to join a dating site together. I have previous with those sites, and am still not convinced it is a good idea, i usually only succeed in getting hurt.
Has anyone here any experience of Outsiders? I have heard about them but never bothered to find out more.
All the best
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