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  • #73615
    Fall to stand

    Hi there,
    I am looking for some help regarding getting up from a fall.
    At the moment if I fall in the house and I am on my own I can’t get up, but I have heard of an inflatable cushion which you can have in a specific area and when you fall sit on it and inflate it so you can rise to a higher position
    To stand from. I hope this makes sense and that someone knows what I’m talking about.

    I have type 2a lgmd.

    Thank you.
    X

    Anniemac
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    #79914
    Re: Fall to stand

    I have done some googling (sounds painful I know :lol: :roll: ) and this is a lifting cushion

    Lifting Cushion

    Its expensive, is this the type of thing you meant.

    Vicki
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    #79915
    Re: Fall to stand

    @vicki wrote:

    I have done some googling (sounds painful I know :lol: :roll: ) and this is a lifting cushion

    Lifting Cushion

    Its expensive, is this the type of thing you meant.

    We have one of those (the Mangar Elk). A rather brilliant OT supplied it for us.
    It’s good, but…
    1. I’d be very surprised if anyone was able to use it on their own. I reckon getting up from the floor with it is at least a two-person operation, with assistance needed to make sure the cushion is positioned correctly under the person who’s fallen, to connect and plug in the battery and then to operate the controls.
    2. The cushion basically raises the person from the floor to a seated position. Whether it’s possible to get from there to standing depends on how easy you find it to rise from sitting to standing. If you need a solid object to push against, or to steady you, as you stand, then the cushion doesn’t really meet that need.
    3. Although it folds up small for storage, the lifting cushion requires quite a bit of clear floor space to operate in. So you need an area free from furniture etc.
    4. Of course if you’re going to fall, you don’t necessarily fall in a convenient position! Getting from where you fall to a place where there is space to use the cushion may be the most difficult part of the whole procedure. And if you’ve fallen awkwardly, there may be difficulties getting the cushion underneath you to begin to inflate it. (I had a spectacular fall a while ago in which I ended up with bits of my body in three different rooms [still attached to each other, fortunately!]. Even with the help of the cushion, it took two able-bodied people the best part of an hour to get me up again…)

    So the cushion might work for you, but there may be issues with it. I think the Mangar people are usually willing to come and demonstrate it, so I’d definitely recommend that before you make a decision. An alternative might be to look into a portable hoist?

    petered
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    #79918
    Re: Fall to stand

    Sounds difficult and not too practical. I’ve had two falls at home in the last ten days – one in the verandah (near a chair, which was a help) and one in the middle of the garden. If at all possible (I am ambulant, but feeble), I gradually pull out any limbs from underneath me, and work my way onto my front, from where, after getting over the shock, I can get on knees and elbows and (this is NOT comfortable in a stony garden) and get up from there. My most memorable fall was in the street, opposite a bar, where I was helped up by some very nice young men, who had the good sense to ask if I need an ambulance before getting me on my feet. Shouldn’t they have offered me a brandy instead?

    Gilliana
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    #79917
    Re: splat to stand

    After a few falls recently I have pretty much gave up unsupervised walkabouts. I used to be able (after a fall) to crawl to a chair and climb up from there. but cant seem to pull myself into my knees now let alone climb up a chair. you dont really notice you can t do somethig till you need to do it in an emergancy. I seem to have developed a floppy button. basically I go walk, walk walk. splat. :lol: have invested in a pushly rolater thingy, put it off for years coz I kept thinking about old granny image and zimmer frame. not really a wanted accessory for the under 30s, but since having it I have had no floppy body splat episodes in the house. even think it helps my breathing as my postures a bit better. So have had to balance image coolness with dignity.

    """""""What doesn't kill you makes you stronger""""""

    Cat (Mod) Cat (Mod)
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    #79916
    Re: Fall to stand

    Don’t ask me how I did it, I am not sure myself. I rolled over in bed and slid off onto my knees and came to rest with chin on edge of mattress and the rest of me sort of collapsed beneath – shuffled on my bum round to the other side of the bed where the phone was [of course]. Fate likes to bugger about with me and my list of three numbers were 1) phone off, 2) ill in bed and 3) working 2 hours away. Ended up bum shuffling to the lounge where I use the chair cushions to roll my self to my knees and then through stubborn persistence eventually roll onto the sofa. Knees {censored}, back {censored}, heart pounding. If it was not for the fact that Tesco were due within the hour to deliver and I was sort of kinda nakey :oops: I’d have stayed there was watched tv … oh yes, that and I needed a pee!

    I use a dining chair as a walker around the house. It is the most useful gadget for me I do not like things with wheels, they roll away from me while I am holding on, lol.

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    AM
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    #79919
    Re: Fall to stand

    Hi, am so glad I logged on. I face similar problems with getting up after a fall, in so much as I find it almost impossible to get up when I’m on my own. After a particular nasty fall last week I looked into hoists etc, I wanted some kind of hoist I could operate independently as I live on my own, unfortunately it appears this kind of thing doesn’t really exist and all hoists on the market require one – two people to assist.

    I decided to get a bit creative and thought maybe this would work, I purchased a bath lift a couple of months ago and it’s amazing, so I was thinking what’s stopping me buying another one to keep in a central place at home, it folds flat to it wouldn’t be in the way. The plan would be to position myself on the seat and power myself to a higher sitting position to then allow me to transfer to the sofa, not sure if it will work and I’m still mulling it over. I think the problem I would find with the flatable cushion is balance, I have none and so to balance myself on the chair whilst it’s inflating could be tricky, and it’s very expensive. My bath seat is half the price!

    Not sure if it’s an appropriate solution for everyone but it could work, here’s the link:

    http://www.practicalbathing.co.uk/bellavita.html

    Paula x

    Armadillo
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    #79920
    Re: Fall to stand

    I purchased a bath lift a couple of months ago and it’s amazing, so I was thinking what’s stopping me buying another one to keep in a central place at home,

    had a look at link for bath chair. it seems to raise to a decent height, does it require fixings to stop it flipping back.

    Dont try this at home kids… :lol: before when I was able to crawl about the house if I took a tumble when downstairs I would shuffle myself out to the hall, put the foot plate of the stair lift down, get my self onto that and use the stair lift to get me higher off the ground for standing.

    """""""What doesn't kill you makes you stronger""""""

    Cat (Mod) Cat (Mod)
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    #79921
    Re: Fall to stand

    Hi sorry for taking so long to reply! The bath seat requires no fixings to keep the back in place, it’s all automatic. Hope it’s a solution to what is a flipping nightmare of a problem x

    Armadillo
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    #79922
    Re: Fall to stand

    These posts really encouraged me. I have been falling more recently and have been quite discouraged. After a fall at work yesterday I was feeling very defeated. But reading through your stories has been helpful. I am not alone! I also have to crawl to a place…either steps or a couch to get up. I can’t manage to stand on a flat plane.

    willnotfearthefuture
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    #79923
    Re: Fall to stand

    Welcome willnotfearthefuture. No, you aren’t on your own. Not at all.
    I think falling comes as part of the muscle wastage/weakness. As you said they can be really discouring, especially if you have a fall in public places, I know how that feels. In the end though you just end up accepting them and dealing with them when they happen.
    I use two crutches all the time. When my knees do give out on me the crutches sometimes keeps me upright and if i do go down I use a combination of the crutches and whatever is around me to get back up. And if that fails I shout for help or if i’m out grab the nearest passerby and get them to help me back up lol.

    skel2
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    #79924
    Re: Fall to stand

    Hi, I have Myoshi Myopathy / LGMD2b and also fall regularly. I thought I would share my experiences. I no longer have the strength to pull myself up on furniture and found that by far the easiest way was to use my bath lift which is stored in the spare room. I shuffle on my bum from where I have fallen taking my sticks with me and then use the bath seat positioned next to a firm surface to get me to a fairly good height from which I can stand. The hardest bit is being able to lift myself up enough to sit on the seat as it is about 2″ off the ground. The only thing to remember is to charge the handset regularly otherwise you my find there’s not enough battery to get you upright!

    Obviously this is no good if you fall in the middle of Tesco as I’ve been known to do (a spectacular forward dive into a rail of clothes as my sticks slide from underneath me) but it does help me be a bit more independent at home. It’s amazing how creative we all are to find solutions to the problems we face.

    Suzie
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    #79925
    Re: Fall to stand

    @suzie wrote:

    Hi, I have Myoshi Myopathy / LGMD2b and also fall regularly. I thought I would share my experiences.
    Obviously this is no good if you fall in the middle of Tesco as I’ve been known to do It’s amazing how creative we all are to find solutions to the problems we face.

    Welcome to the forum.

    Glad you are sharing your experiences with us. The “get to the bathseat / lift” one
    is good. I plaster every wall with safety grab rails. Off to ASDA for more, in the morning
    as they have an offer of two for £ 7.

    Very good point about how we find solutions by being creative.

    I have fallen in Asda and Scope. The cup of tea they make you afterwards always
    seems the best you have ever tasted.

    Thanks your contribution

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    taungfox
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    #79926
    Re: Fall to stand

    I used to have a mangar booster to get me up from the floor if I fell, of even if I just wanted to sit on the floor, which can be the most accessible environment to do stuff. The booster was basically a hard platform on an air bellows that will inflate and deflate to go up and down – just like their bath lift but with a platform rather than the seat. It’s a shame they no longer do it as it is a much better solution than using a bath lift or the mangar elk, which is a useful piece of kit but not easy to use independently. Would MDC have sufficient muscle (pardon the pun) to suggest to Mangar that they might want to bring it back in? My booster was an absolute godsend to me for many years – I used to take it camping with me so that I could get down to the floor and back up again.

    Ameena
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